I would have this comment on the supposed fact that two young people on a motorcycle was proof of his predictionWill and Judy Pliska were accidentally killed by a Christian man who grievously attended the funeral service. Bob Jones In 1991, Kansas City prophet Bob Jones' tapes were removed from the Vineyard Ministries International product catalog after he admitted to "a moral failure" . Bob is so integral in the first 18 months of our history, The grandiose vision of the Movement was, in fact, expanded by a whole series of visions that Bob Jones supposedly had between 1974 and 1983. The Lost Books Of The Bible: Should We Accept Or Reject? We had a youth camp there. The suit also alleged that the Roberts home had been remodeled 11 times in 14 years, that Lindsay spent nights in the ORU guest house with an underage 16 year old male, and that she frequently had cell phone bills of more than $800 per month, with hundreds of text messages sent between 1 a.m. and 3 a.m. to underage males who had been provided phones at university expense (Oral Roberts University Faces the Blue Screen of Death, shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2007/10/oral-roberts-university-faces-blue.html). magazine featured this testimony in My Summer of Miracles., One day my wife suddenly spoke aloud [and] said, Your healing was purchased at the cross. Here is what I discovered. He was backslidden and had been out of the church for over a year in the Navy. And a ball of fire danced all over that basement, and didnt hurt me. I didnt haveever any trouble seem the devil!When theyd take over me, Id go completely wackyjust lookin for trouble. Bob Jones (not the one connected with Bob Jones University) died 1 on February 14, 2014 at the age of 83. That is a lie. Sincerely yours, (signed) Alan Needham (Pastor). His first wife, who accused him of fathering a child out of wedlock, took their three children and moved to Hawaii, but Clarence went right on as if nothing had happened . Then he said a strange word. I warned them about a motorcycle. For information see: www.wayoflife.org/about/makeanoffering.html. b. When you drink enough, you become possessedI become possessed (F89, p. 29), 3. Jane Lead and Alice Bailey, occultic mediums, prophesied the IDENTICAL things Jones and BIckle have been promoting for years. Mikes whole ministry was riddled with false directives, false prophecy and revelation, and false doctrine. Below you will find a handful of new images from last night, Nigh 43 of the Florida Revival and Healing Outpouring. Bob Jones. . So that that glorious Church might be revealed in the last daysbecause the Lord Jesus is worthy to be lifted up by a Church that has reached the full maturity of the God-man! (Bob Jones, tape, Visions and Revelations, 1988.). However, Paul has resisted this process and has continued in his sin (Special Bulletin, MorningStar Ministries, Oct, 19, 2004). Visions and Revelations.). Yesterday a precious family member, Viola Jones, passed away at her home near Statesville, North Carolina. The 1980's began to reveal the Prophets of God; people that get the inspired word. This is an around-the-clock operation that involves several God-fearing servants and much technological expertise and costs. . Thats all that it means there. http://www.banner.org.uk/kcp/Abberent%20Practises.pdf, The Ernie Gruen Report (Conversation between Mike Bickle and Bob Jones), 1. OPH ,p. 2) And the reason I get talking about BobBob is so integral in the first 18 months of our history, because the Lord ordained it. Prophet Bob Jones is pictured here prophesying to the first nations (Native American) people, as well as delivering a powerful word to the believers who came for a touch of Heaven. This white horse is to bring to pass the former moves of God that took place overtime. . .until he met Mike Bickle. Wow that something the Bible teaches us, except I cant seem to find the verse, but it must be there because of Jones revelation from God. Whats interesting is that this time revival is happening at Asbury College. The long and the short of it was that God had a new direction and, in essence,He was sending me to Kansas City. . And a lot of people have had a lot of good laughs about it. (Mike Bickle with Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, transcript, series of five tapes from the fall of 1988.). , Cho taught a Word-Faith heresy called the Law of Incubation. He claimed that believers can create reality by forming a precise mental picture of a goal, then speaking it into existence. This full maturity is what is called the Manifested Sons of God doctrine that came from the Latter Rain Heresy. Im Christel Berns. his healing power came when he was struck by lightning: The part that is true is that Bob had been prophesying and reporting his dreams and predictions for years in Kansas City. . , March 1992, p. 90), he said there is no higher calling than ecumenical bridge-building. Because Jones was hit by lightening he developed Golden Senses, an ability to feel in his hands and arms sensations that would signal various spiritual realities. We trust that your Christian honesty will preserve the integrity of this policy. Bob Jones and his supernatural visions and experiences are foundational to Kansas City Fellowship and their Movement.b.Bobs background includes alcoholism, abandonment to sin, demon possession, drug addiction, and time in a mental institution; from this background he does a sudden 180 degree turn to become a major prophet of God for the last days.c.This man who saw demons regularly and partied with them prior to salvation now begins seeing angels and having out-of-body experiences, etc. They said, We dont want you here again. They cast him out, and within weeks the immorality in the leadership took place and the people leftleft their spouses of the church, so seven young people under 30 die in six weeks. In 1991, Swaggart was again in hot water when police in Indio, California, stopped him on a traffic violation and found that the woman riding with him was a prostitute. . 5(If anyone does not know how to manage his own family, how can he take care of Gods church?) published a photo of Hinn and Pentecostal preacher Paula White (who was divorced the previous year) walking hand-in-hand leaving a hotel in Rome. Bob Jones spiritual experiences are extraordinary to say the least. http://www.banner.org.uk/kcp/Abberent%20Practises.pdf p.41, Bob and Mikes VersionA FABRICATED STORY CONCERNING BOB JONES p.42 The following story, which is often told by Mike Bickle to give credibility to Bob Jones as a prophet, is a complete fabrication of facts. And it was like Him and. We were involved with the youth leaders, and we even gave them quite a bit of land in Lake Ozarks. Since that time he has seen many, many times, five, ten visions and dreams a night. Moments with Our Master 365 Day Devotional [book], Grow in Christ Edification Pack Special [books], 40 Bible Verses Every Disciple MUST Know! 4He must manage his own family well and see that his children obey him, and he must do so in a manner worthy of full[a]respect. I am passionate in sharing Gods love to the world through the skills and talents God has blessed me with. The 5th edition of this book, November 2014, is significantly enlarged and revised throughout. They preach a charismatic prosperity message and live lavishly. Its not have the faith in God, it is to have the faith of God. And you know there is about a list of 12 people that are the problems why you are here. I listened to your tape earlier; and this past Sunday someone gave me a copy of your letter to Mike Bickle of April 4. Other items we sell to help fund our expensive literature and foreign church planting ministries. The church is never going to be a Melchizedek Priesthood because this is not Gods intention for the church- Jesus ALONE is the God man, this why the Bible teaches he is the only begotten Son of God. The Melchisedek Priesthood has only one priest- that is Jesus Christ and Him alone, for it is an eternal priesthood with Him as its priest forever. Is this Jesus the same one in the Bible? Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Bob Jones started having prophetic experiences at the age of 7 years old, and continued to have experiences his entire life. A statement issued by Rick Joyner, Jack Deere, and Mike Bickel said: Paul admitted to these sinful practices and was placed under discipline, agreeing to a process of restoration, which the three of us would oversee. Go kill them or forgive them (F88, p. 6)EDITORS NOTE: He does eventually forgive them. He was back in the ministry within weeks. Jesus said to those who exercise power as a group of prophets in the last days are in grave jeopardy Many will say to me in that day; Lord; Lord HAVE WE NOT PROPHESIED IN THY NAME? Bob spoke about some things to occur, and gave Mike a personal, seemingly, supernatural word of prophecy, that convinced Mike he was from God, throwing out all of the red flags and other warnings, embracing everything Bob said, and actually building his ministry upon Bobs revelations! That certain overcomers become immortal on the earth before Christ even returns. Everything about Paul was often dramatic! They wont do anything to you. And immediately, I cried out for help. SHORTLY THEREAFTER. The following story, which is often told by Mike Bickle to give credibility to Bob Jones as a prophet, is a complete fabrication of facts. December 28, and as usual in the presence of this prophet I brought my iphone and recorded the conversation. Change), You are commenting using your Twitter account. And the whole thing was shut down. 3) Turn from . . ), 6. Help me. And the voice spoke to me and says, I cant help you, Bob, until you forgive them. How God Directed Dr. Bob Jones III to Remarry. despite what the doctors said, I refused to say My cancer. It was not mine. And youll bring it into being. The 2020s reveal the rest of God. So I was settled then. I said, Five or ten a night! He said, Oh, yes, all the time. Jones explains to us that his healing power came when he was struck by lightning: It was about 76. Ever since that time in 74 when he was filled with the Holy Spirit he began to see the technicolor visions and the Lord began to visit him. The part that is true is that Bob had been prophesying and reporting his dreams and predictions for years in Kansas City. This is a red flag. Now if anyone builds on the foundation with gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straweach ones work will become manifest, for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed by fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done. 1 Cor. After having studied the truly bizarre, unscriptural nature of so many of Bob Jones beliefs, teachings, visions, dreams, and out-of-body experiences, we are in total agreement with Mikes original, gut-level assessment. Could Bob Jones prophecy be starting to unfold as the Kansas City Chiefs win Super Bowl, and all the while, revival is breaking out amongst the college students at Asbury College? I only saw til 2060 and the church was still here and it wasnt defeated by any means. Blinded by a refusal to judge anything, esp. Theyll birth the Church,but their children will attain levels of the Holy Spirit that they will not. We're referring to the arrest of 30-year-old entertainment lawyer Benjamin Lawson Adams - a former graduate of Bob Jones Academy and a former student at Bob Jones University. When we first met Paul in the early 1990s his story was one that was quite dramatic. . . Barry suddenly starts talking about an old Bob Jones prophecy about the "honkers". Morningstar Prophetic Newsletter. . And what youll do, youll proclaim it. Read carefully the account, given by Mike Bickle and Bob Jones, during interviews in the fall of 1988:BJ:= Bob JonesViola and I were involved in a church in 76. Brother Cloud lives in South Asia where he has been a church planting missionary since 1979. Nearly everyone one of these men are separately or collectively involved in the Latter Rain false revivals that have taken place. We find out who Bob Jones White Talking Horse is and whom the angel of the Lord is. Jones has been found to need a translator for his speaking even though it is in English because of his incoherence in communication (one translator for Jones is Paul Keith Davis of White Dove ministry). . This was the only other recorded death in the church in a 2-year span. The people and pastor grew weary of this continuous and wearisome foretelling of earthquakes and tragedies coming until I, as pastor and shepherd of the sheep, asked Bob Jones to come with me and another pastor to my study to counsel him. And when I first met him, I couldnt hardly comprehend that. Fact: God does not choose one of His saints to kill His saints. Sir Bob Jones gave up drinking a year ago and says he still feels like a young man. In the 1990's, we began to get a revelation of the Government of God. Christ gave only one legitimate cause, and that is fornication, yet the two said the split involves no third party on either side.. 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